View Full Version : Which One's Best?
Bishop37
04-22-2007, 06:38 PM
Choose!
HobartFloyt
04-22-2007, 08:30 PM
I voted for the Lynch version. I find I can sit and watch it and stay interested where with the Skiffy version I was soon looking for something to do.
Martok2112
04-22-2007, 10:00 PM
Ow! Now this is a tough one!
I find that both offer much that makes each one close to the original novel.
If I were to vote based on the original '84 Lynch theatrical release vs. the Sci Fi Channel version...I'd have to go with the Sci-Fi channel version.
But, when it comes to the extended versions of both, I'd have to call it a draw.
Only in terms of visuals would the Skiffy version win out, IMHO, because the extended edition of the Lynch film is still unrefined. (No rotoscoping the blue/blue eyes in the extended scenes, lousy editing and reuse of VFX--like the overuse of Baron Harkonnen's personal cruiser for different landing scenes throughout the film.)
As far as story content though, the "director's cuts" of both Lynch and Skiffy's renditions are excellent.
Respectfully,
Martok2112 (Supporter of the RIGHT to MINE and KEEP Melange) :D
Westy
04-22-2007, 10:22 PM
I could never decide between the 2. They both have part of the essense of Dune but they both also fail to stay true to it as well.
As for the actors, I can't stand William Hurt period. And I didn't care for either Alec Newman's or Kyle MacLachlan's portrayal as Paul in either.
It's a tie, therefore I won't vote.
Wild Boar
04-22-2007, 10:27 PM
I'd like to see God Emporer Dune turned into a mini-series. It'd be cool to see Leto the Worm!
both have strong and weak points.
i voted for lynch because it came at a time when something so grandiose was needed and because the movie format was stunning.
i also loved the mini series though and it had things that made some of the story make more sense with less flash... however i find that TV never completely satisfies me and if it had been done in a film format (even as long as it was) id probably have liked it better.
i like to be immersed.
neither hold a candle to the book.
the continuations on the network version were nice though...
(this has absolutely nothing to do with my kyle maclachlan fetish)
Gemini1999
04-22-2007, 11:11 PM
I voted for the Lynch version of Dune.
I think that both versions have something to offer and are entertaining on their own. The problem comes when you compare the two - the Lynch version has better casting and is much more memorable after watching it.
The mini-series version is entertaining, but doesn't leave a lasting impression afterwards.
I own both on DVD, but I confess that I got the Skiffy version for just over 6 dollars on a Best Buy clearance sale...
Bryan
For me it's a very easy choice. The sci fi version was enjoyable but the Lynch version of Dune had what I call the it factor in watching a movie.
That's when the site and sound compliment the story so well that it doesn't take long to forget that you are watching a movie.
The 1984 version is one of my favorite all time movies right up there with Heavy Metal, Blade runner, silent running, The Keep, Superman the movie and a few others that all have very awesome soundtracks.
It was an interesting move to go with a rock band (Totto) for the soundtrack of a sci fi movie but back in the early 80s, it was a trendy thing with such bands as queen doing movies like Flash Gordon.
We can pick apart the special FX used for that time but I find that the 1984 version takes you away to another time and place right from the start of the movie.
Actually I never got the whole argument of picking apart FX from years ago because I've always been more interested in the over all feel of a movie.
And especially when you have movies like Spiderman and the Hulk that are very entertaining (Well at least spider man was lol) but the FX still looks like someone spent a very long time on the computer doing it rather then what it should look like, A man in a suite swinging from web to web.
Don't get me wrong, it's getting better and better every day and there are a lot of talented CGI people right here doing stuff that looks a lot more real then what you see on the big screen.
I also agree that the extended version from Lynch is the better one. I only seen it for the first time when I bought the special edition.
OWD
Skiffy. I liked it enough to get it on DVD. :twisted:
Bishop37
04-23-2007, 10:46 AM
My vote goes to the Skiffy version too.
One of the few things they've done well.
Darth Marley
04-23-2007, 10:56 AM
Yep. It seemed to read from the book a little more closely.
The Lynch version had the "weirding modules" which I thought was a completely unnecessary deviation form the source material.
From wiki;
Director David Lynch's decision to use modules was taken because he found the idea of the Weirding Way unworkable on film, stating he did not want to see "Kung-fu on sand dunes".
Stupid bastard.
Eugenia
04-23-2007, 01:07 PM
This poll is an example of my usual reaction to different versions of the same material.
I had read the book before I saw either the movie or the mini-series.
When Lynch's movie came out I was a bit doubtful since I didn't know how a movie was going to convey the various characters thinking or communicating in 'code' which was half the book, especially given the time restrains of a single movie. The mini-series had more time to go into more of the layers of complexity of the book.
In the end, both had their good points and bad points. The movie's Baron was a little too much for me, but otherwise captured the mood of the book. The mini-series was perhaps more faithful to the book, but was not quite as cohesive overall in tone.
In the end I gave it to the movie.
Wild Boar
04-23-2007, 02:54 PM
Many of my friends and I had read Dune back in the 80s. Some of us went to see the David Lynch movie as a group and we were stunned by our dislike of it. The reasons have been stated in the thread already: "wierding modules", over-the-top Baron Harkonen, Gurney Halleck is a non-factor, Duncan Idaho appears just long enough to die and at the end it rains?!? (Thanks, Worms, you did your job now you can die!)
I felt that Skiffy's version was far truer to the source material. Some would find that odd for Skiffy.
Also, I felt that with Children of Dune, Skiffy really excelled.
Both have strong points in their favor. Herbert himself is said to have privately endorsed the Lynch film, they got the Guild Navigator down cold, there were some strong performances by the big-name supporting actors (and by Sting, I thought). The Skiffy effort stuck more closely to the book. And both have weak points. I wasn't thrilled with McLaughlin's performance in the film (he kind of got lost), or the inability to stick to the book - and I hated the 'weirding modules', which I think badly diminished the Bene Geseret skills and added a factor totally outside what Herbert was writing. The Skiffy effort had some SFX flaws and didn't adequately expand on some of the important secondary characters. And, of course, it was a Skiffy production, never a high mark in my book.
The edge goes to the miniseries, though. The central character of Paul Atreides was much stronger, and the 'weirding way' was more martial-arts as Herbert, I think, intended.
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Devlyn16
04-23-2007, 03:34 PM
Sadly I have not yet watched the SCI-Fi version
Tribe13
04-23-2007, 05:13 PM
What are the "weirding modules?" (I've not seen either version all the way through, nor have I read the book, although I owned it at one time: a gift from one of my aunts when I was a little too young to appreciate it).
Langolas
04-23-2007, 08:48 PM
What are the "weirding modules?" (I've not seen either version all the way through, nor have I read the book, although I owned it at one time: a gift from one of my aunts when I was a little too young to appreciate it).
Well you won't find the modules in book. They're basically a weapon that takes sound and makes it a weapon. Certain frequencies are more devestating than others -
The "Weirding way" was more of a specialized form of Martial Arts -
JJRAKMAN
04-23-2007, 09:49 PM
Have to go with Lynch. I love his movies in general to begin with. Love the uniforms, and the still suits look like they actually could be a real functional concept. The sets were awesome too. The ship designs could have used some work though.
The miniseries, ehh. I rented it and fell asleep during alot of it. Frankly there's alot of fan films that look better. Children of Dune seemed to look better, but in all honesty I couldn't bring myself to watch it because I loathe Susan Sarandon.
Bishop37
04-23-2007, 09:57 PM
We went to see Dune when we were at college. One of my mates Dan, went to sleep watching it. I think he went to sleep during The Right Stuff too. :roll:
I nodded off during the special edition of Star Wars. :lol:
Tribe13
04-23-2007, 11:17 PM
Well you won't find the modules in book. They're basically a weapon that takes sound and makes it a weapon. Certain frequencies are more devestating than others -
The "Weirding way" was more of a specialized form of Martial Arts -Was that the knife fighting with the odd, segmented force shields that pop up on the body?
I think I need to rent these two and watch them back to back.
Langolas
04-24-2007, 01:09 AM
Well you won't find the modules in book. They're basically a weapon that takes sound and makes it a weapon. Certain frequencies are more devestating than others -
The "Weirding way" was more of a specialized form of Martial Arts -Was that the knife fighting with the odd, segmented force shields that pop up on the body?
I think I need to rent these two and watch them back to back.
the knife fighting and shield was the normal way people did hand to hand combat. That is from the book. However, on Dune (the planet), it's suicide to use shields outside of the Rocks. and even then be far from the edge as the harmonics or somthing from the Shields draw worms from many kilometrs around. Drives them into a mad frenzy.
the weirding way was a martial arts form - kidn of like the mythical moves in and smacks the hell out of you and all you see is a blur of motion. More to it than that but it was a nasty fightying style. Couple that with the nastyness (and I don't mean just odor) of the Fremen - and you have a killing force to be reckoned with.
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